Russia or India: Who would win a hypothetical military clash?

Russia or India: Who would win a hypothetical military clash?


India is the second biggest military in the
world, by overall number of active personnel. Russia comes in fifth. Russian air forces do have more combat planes. And the russian ground army has more heavy
weapon systems. But this video will not just list all the
equipment both sides have. It will also try to depict how they would
both fare in a conflict, one against the other. Let this arena war analysis commence! Let’s go back to our arena war. Mind you, the naval conflict is outside the
scope of this video. Since Russia and India don’t share a border,
the conflict will be over a hypothetical, generic piece of land. Sure, that’s not realistic, but neither
would be a real war between russia and india. The piece of land over which the two will
fight is basically an area of Kazakhstan, with a roughly similar geography, vegetation
et cetera. Both militaries will start some 13 hundred
miles apart, and have to cross the lands and occupy the territory and the few urban centers
there are, modeled after kazakhstan. There are no nukes used, both sides enjoy
a similar morale and there’s no outside interference. When it comes to military expenditure, the
two are quite evenly matched, according to the two leading sources in that field. Of course, those figures only give a rough
picture. As always with defense expenditures, the context
is key. Indian professional soldiers are less paid. India does have more personnel overall. Its working wages are smaller, so personnel
expenditure is lower per person. But it buys a lot of equipment abroad, especially
from the US, at fairly steep prices. Russia makes its equipment domestically and
can procure it at cheaper rates. So what did all that money secure for each
side? India’s economic situation and huge population
allows it to have an all volunteer force. Basically a low paid professional soldier
force. With Possibly low motivation but that’s
outside the scope of this video. The Indian armed services are 50 percent larger
overall. When it comes to ground army maneuver troops,
marines and airborne troops – the disparity in numbers is even bigger. Yet, when those two large armies would start
moving one towards another, actual combat effectiveness would not only depend on numbers
but a myriad of other factors. Each military unit would need ample support,
not just to wage war, but also simply to sustain itself and to effectively, in time, receive
resources as it moves through the battlefield. If all other variables are considered equal,
for simplicity sake, then the ratio of combat unit personnel to other, support personnel,
shows how much more support each side can count on. Both sides appear to have a roughly equal
ratio at first. But the thing is, they don’t use the same
common denominator. While the command and support elements are
already counted within the indian army, for the russian army a good portion of those are
part of a separate force organization. When 40 percent of THOSE are added to the
russian army, it becomes more obvious the russian units could rely on greater logistical
support. A look at the heavy equipment both armies
are using, makes that argument even more clear. India is ahead in sheer number of tanks by
some 12 percent. But Russian tanks are on average somewhat
more capable. And when it comes to other armored combat
vehicles, it becomes evident the russian maneuver units can count on much greater organic firepower
and number of vehicles with sensors. Basically, most Indian army units are simple
infantry units with very little added firepower. And they’d have to be transported around
in various trucks. In practice, that means that if they’d have
to advance over a risky part of the front – they would have to do it on foot. Russian forces are all not just motorized
but can rely on armored protection, with three times more vehicles that have a medium caliber
gun and a sensor. When it comes to artillery support, the numbers
seem similar. But the quality edge is still on the Russian
side. More of their artillery is self propelled,
and of a larger caliber. The russians could also, to some degree, count
on the vast stocks of ex soviet vehicles and guns, that are stored. Even if just 10 % of those could be restored
and given to mobilized conscripts, they could be useful. Refurbishing MORE than 10 or so percent would
be implausible. A lot of those weapons are very old and have
not been stored in dry conditions. And to properly man an additional 40 thousand
vehicles or guns would require training of another half a million soldiers, more than
doubling the existing russian ground troops. When it comes to actual reservists, the situation
is a bit murky. There’s an obligation to serve in both armed
forces. So some theoretic totals of reservists can
seem very high. But only a small part of those forces actually
either undergo periodic re-training or have been freshly discharged from the army, so
they don’t need much training. Russia for example maintains arms for some
13 additional motorized brigades. So both sides would rush forward on the battlefield. But the fairly few roads, compared to the
vast area, would benefit the russian side much more, as lots of their vehicles are designed
for off road conditions. Their bigger support units would also mean
the russians would likely move at a greater average speed, compared to the Indians. Of course, the air power of both sides would
try to impede the other’s movement. Air strikes on columns of vehicles, especially
on roads, could create serious traffic jams. The russian air forces are larger, though
both sides still use some planes that date from the cold war. India did receive a few advanced Rafale aircraft
at the end of 2019, but the first unit is not likely to be completed and active before
2021. Russian Su-57 is also not yet in service. Given the size of the battlefield, it’s
likely neither side would see much combat at the very start of the war. Russia does have a bit more long range platforms
so sporadic ground strikes would be possible even from the start. And more aerial tankers would also help. Russian bombers might also initially expend
dozens of long range missiles. As some civilian airports are captured and
as new airbases are constructed, closer to the enemy, the air war would start to rage
in earnest. Indian sukhoi pilots do tend to fly higher
hours than the average of russian air forces, but other older plane pilots fly similar hours
to the russians. The russians do have more awacs type planes,
which would help coordinate air combat over the front lines from safe distances. Overall, the two sides would be fairly evenly
matched in the air if combat happened away from both side’s ground forces. In the long run, the russian fighter jets
being 40 percent more numerous and the slight russian awacs edge would likely see india
slowly going on the defensive, not able to use their air forces for offensive missions. But all that assumes air combat over no man’s
land. In reality, most of the air combat would happen
either over indian or russian controlled territory. Where each side would have their air defenses
present. And russian air defenses are considerable. Just counting the modern systems, russia has
over ten times as many of them, and they’re of much greater reach, covering a far bigger
area. Russia again has over 50 percent more Cold
war era systems, which are once again greater in reach. Short range systems again show large russian
numerical superiority. Very short range systems such as strela are
not accounted for, though. Russian precision strike capable planes are
50 percent more numerous, as well. So larger russian air defenses would have
less targets to worry about. While less plentiful indian sam batteries
would have more on their mind. All that would basically mean that Indian
air strikes would seldomly succeed without grave casualty rates. In the long run, the indian air force would
likely not be able to provide support from the air nor go deep behind enemy lines to
continually disrupt russian logistics. While the russian air force still lacks the
numbers to properly do both of those jobs, it would be better at it, with fewer casualties
overall. Cruise missile and ballistic missile arsenals
are only a small part of the both sides’ offensive power and wouldn’t be crucial. Still, Russia does pull ahead there as well. Eventually, the two large masses of soldiers
would meet, probably somewhat closer to the indian starting point, as russia would be
quicker to deploy their forces. Russia would thus be able to choose a little
better where to draw their lines. They could make use of urban centers or forests
if to suit their forces, depending on their composition. Russian force mobility extends to the air
mobility sector, as well. They have roughly five times greater transport
plane capacity and 20 percent greater transport helicopter capacity, even though their army
is several times smaller. Those aircraft would help move supplies for
some of the fastest progressing front troops, and would occasionally be an option for moving
some of the more elite troops over the front, where possible. When it comes to units trained for airborne
ops and helicopter assault – russians far outstrip the indian capability. After the cold war, the russian military had
to downsize from soviet numbers quite a bit. For example, the soviet army was over ten
times larger than today’s russian army. But when it comes to airborne corps, its size
was only halved. Still, while indians would likely cover less
than half of the territory by the time two armies meet, their land power would still
be considerable. Remember, they have roughly four times as
many ground troops. If the battlefield was very large, Russian
mobility could somewhat maneuver around those numbers. But on a smaller battlefield, like the one
mentioned at the start of this video, the concentration of forces would be such that
no part of the front would be without india having several times more soldiers. They’d have a hard time progressing though. Without the air power advantage, and with
less firepower in terms of artillery and fewer medium caliber guns organic to the brigades
– the indian forces would find themselves under constant barrage when exposed in an
attack. Russians would have a different problem. They could count on some, but not too much
air power, and their ground based fire support would be somewhat better. But the sheer numbers of the enemy would mean
that even if they wipe out a whole unit, another one would take its place. Russia does have a significant edge in attack
helicopters, but those probably won’t do much on their own, save to blunt any possible
indian mass tank assault. To wage war, one needs to know where enemy
forces are. On a more strategic scale, various aerial
and satellite assets are usually used for that role. Satellites wise, the disparity in numbers
is not that big. For the ground battle, most of the recon work
would actually be done by various drones and manned recon aircraft. India does possess a sizable recon drone advantage,
though such drones would not be able to operate close to russian air defenses and hope to
survive for long. The western part of the battlefield, where
there’s desert terrain, would be hard on both sides, but more so on the indian side,
if it wants to be mobile. The russians might want to try and take advantage
of their mobility edge and perhaps quickly re-concentrate some of their forces there,
creating a temporary numbers parity or even a localized numeric superiority via a massive
airborne assault, helping the armored push. Still, we’re talking about a thousand indian
troops per one mile of frontline on average. Of course, the actual distribution would be
less uniform. The russians would on the other hand be hard
pressed to make ANY progress in urban areas or forest areas such as on the eastern side
of the battlefield. Where the heavy equipment and mobility edge
would mostly be annulled by said surroundings. And indian numerical superiority would perhaps
even mean the indians might slightly push the front north. The whole front is unlikely to move very much
overall, though. Even if the russians do break the indian line
here or there with a temporary concentration of firepower and numbers, before india can
react, the russian bulge would quickly find itself surrounded and exposed from both west
and east. While the indians would be unlikely to advance
much and / or quickly, do to less logistics support their units enjoy, the russians would
be stopped by sheer indian numbers. In trying to break those numbers, the russians
may be forced to press on in such a way that the loss ratio would favor the indians. Seeing how the russians are behind in numbers
anyway, that’s not a viable long term strategy. It is thus most likely the war would become
a stalemate. Within a year, russia might take advantage
of some of the old soviet weapon stocks. Evan making just a part of them work would
mean perhaps another 50 thousand reservist troops decently equipped with tanks, IFVs
and artillery. Indians would be behind there, as their initial
added reservist units would very much be light infantry, transported by simple trucks. With little expertise, those reservists would
be thrown into the war grinder, not making as much difference as a professional soldier
could. Still, it’s plausible russia MIGHT move
the frontline a little bit more towards the indian side over a longer period. The Indian air force would most likely play
defensively. It absolutely can’t afford to lose planes
to russian air defenses. And as long as it can deny most of its airspace
to russian planes, which it can due to its fairly advanced planes and sufficient numbers,
as well as the fact the attacker would lack the same level of situational awareness in
enemy territory due to fewer radars – it could keep the russian air force in check. If however it loses its air forces in headless
attacks on russian air force and air defenses – the russians could use their remaining assets
to aid the ground effort. Even the russian bomber force, which would
otherwise be confined to stand-off missile strikes as it’s too vulnerable to do much
else – could suddenly be a serious factor. One Hundred and thirty bombers doing carpet
bombing runs might wreak havoc on indian morale. But realistically, the indians would be using
their population advantage and mobilizing several times more units than the russians. Even if poorly equipped, india would still
possess enough fire support and air defenses to blunt most russian attacks. That frontline would be moving very, VERY
slowly towards the indian side. Would things change much by year two? Not likely. While the indian economy is two to three times
bigger by GDP – switching that into an actual war effort advantage would be hard. The Indian industrial sector is not that much
bigger than russia’s. And russia has kept a lot of their cold war
arms industry and capitalized on it. The Indian arms industry is less advanced
and smaller in size. A lot of indian planes and tanks, for example,
are russian sourced. Without support, especially the planes would
likely experience maintenance issues, as the indian aerospace sector still doesn’t make
100 percent of the parts for those planes. While india could try and further source arms
from other countries – purchases of complex systems take years to materialize, without
help from outside governments. India could not afford to go for expensive
western systems with its GDP and hope to out match the russian own sourced weapons. The stalemate on the front might still go
on. Of course, the front position would, during
all of the war, be somewhat in russia’s favor. Casualties though are another story. Even if the russians could maintain a one
to one loss ratio, losing 200 000 troops would not hit both sides the same. In a VERY long long, multiyear war, india
might still have a chance to start pushing the russian forces up north. It all depends on the morale of both sides,
which is something that’s impossible to quantify even for starting positions, let
alone 3 or 4 years into a war.

100 comments

  1. Looks like this video triggered lots of Indian people. It's obvious that India and Russia are not going for a war in near future, but this video is just a hypothetical simulation. So chill guys 🇮🇳🇷🇺

  2. Indian forces were made for defensive missions not for offensive objectives and Indian defense line is very very difficult to break. By the way India has far superior cyber army which can block/ jam the Russian communication systems leaving them blind in the battlefield.

  3. Russia was,is and will be India's one of the most trusted and loyal friends. No point of even hypothetical war here!

  4. Don't get triggered by a YouTuber trying to make money from views people.
    Its a cool video , watch and enjoy it while you appreciate his work. A war is always a loss to everyone. Innocent peoples' lives are lost and peace is hammered. And one can never predict the outcome of a war.
    I wish all the people of the world can someday live in peace and harmony without any suffering. ✌

  5. The Aryans come from Russia to indian land and Sanskrit and Russian language have lots of similarities .we are brothers

  6. War in between Russia and India sound logical if India invade countries in-between Russia and India like Russia did in Afghanistan…

  7. There are some fools in this world thinks Pakistan will a superpower
    and there are some biggest fools thinks Russia and India are good friends.

  8. India and Russia mobilizes entire army, run towards each other and meet somewhere near Tazakistan, sit their and sing Raj Kapoor songs and dance and after the party is over attack china.

  9. Fucking man these to are friends and they never fight with each other. And the 2nt thik is the map of india is wrong because of location of jamu and kashmir. 😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠

  10. it seems that india is considering its real enemy(ies?) kinda hard to wage a mechanized war in the Himalayas. Let's hope that never happens.

  11. For those of you saying that India and Russia are friends you must remember that being ones 'friend' in Geo-Politics means it is simply inconvenient or too costly to compete with one another and resources are better spent elsewhere. There is no friendship between nations even if there can be friendship between their citizens or even their leadership.

  12. Not just numbers but quality of troops, experience, capabilities of soldiers, communications, leadership, etc.

  13. India? Come on man! Get real here. India is just a third world country, that's been claiming it could be a superpower for so long now, nobody listens anymore.

  14. India and Russia are brothers…never attacks eachother….never ever..this video is shit…russia and china are more likely to fight eachother becoz of bountry problem in far east

  15. With resource pool of one billion people, India wins every time, even if they use plastic cutlery to fight Russians.

  16. Indian sukois or Rafale don't need to enter in to Russian airspace , they will simply stay in stand by mode in Indian airspace and throw Brahmos hypersonic version( right now in development) to destroy ground targets.

  17. But India and Russia are best friends,and love from India to our beloved friend Russia, Indians will always respect and support Russia, Mother Russia,and Russian Friends,🇮🇳♥️🇷🇺

  18. You present awesum documentaries which are preciously very close to what the real senario would be.
    But in this vedio you have chosen wrong countries.
    India and Russia are brothers
    Hypothetical or real or at any point of time both in past and in future this is never going to happen.
    But I do adore your precise work in every tactical theatre of context.
    We will be very grateful 🙏 if you provide a documentary on IBG and COLD START DOCTRINE of Indian Army.

  19. You present so many valid documents and that too in an awesome manner… But can't you fact check the map of India cause you have used the incorrect one

  20. Bro people can find this video awkward… coz India n Russia are biggest allies… But the fact is this video is only for educational purpose…. Not a war… Good job man!! 👌

  21. Its a hypothetical scenario. We dont care if you guys are best friends. Its just fun thinking of what would happen which is why it is called a 'hypothetical scenario'.

  22. Russia have to fight over 10 carore soldiers if this type of situation arise. Every Indian wiil fight up to death for his nation.

  23. I love Russia a lot from India 🙌
    Every Indian is born with love for Russia in his DNA . They helped us in 1971 war ❣️🔥

  24. After this hypothetical war Russia would stop giving their top Akula class nuclear submarine on lease to India. Lol.

  25. Hypothetical! If Russia should go to war against the USA, Nato , Asean, Brazil and Columbia; Who wold win?

  26. Wait… What do you mean the Su-57 isn’t in deployment? I read it’s being used in sorties in Syria.

  27. I don't know who would win, but in the end there will be dances with vodka. Seriously, I even can't imagine that conflict. Greetings, Indians. You living in very beautiful country. Take care of your land.

  28. Actually, an arena war between India and Russia is EXTREMELY likely, but it will happen in China rather than Kazakhstan. That's because the Russian and Indian armies will each make a move for new territory after China and its population are soon wiped out BY THE CORONAVIRUS!!!

  29. Russian is more stronger than india, but Russia and India have good bonding , they will not go for war but they solve the issue with dialogues.

  30. Most Indian weapons are bought from Russia so there's no chance of manufacturing newer jets during war so untill 2040 India got no chance , current prime minister has initiated some projects to make India a defense hub of the world and bring manufacturing of both american and Russian weapons here , ak203 in Varanasi was the latest addition

  31. Are you serious bro india never going to against war on russia I love Russia a lot from India 🙌

    Every Indian is born with love for Russia in his DNA . They helped us in 1971 war ❣️🔥

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